(Photo: Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship)
Dr. Tony Evans, senior pastor of Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship in
Dallas, Texas.Pastor
Evans, known for his popular books and teachings on how a
"kingdom agenda" impacts men, women, families, and
society, founded the 10,000-member OCBF in 1976 with wife and
ministry partner, Dr. Lois Evans.
Read the
transcript of CP's interview with the Dallas, Texas, pastor and
bestselling author, or watch the discussion in the video player
below.
CP:
The issue of homosexuality and same-sex marriage seems unavoidable
nowadays. Why do you think that is?
Evans: "I
think this issue has taken a dominant position in the Church and in
the culture because it does infringe on the re-definition of the
family. With that redefinition, it's weighted heavier in terms of its
implications both for, not only the family, but then how the Church
functions in light of it, and how the Church interacts with the
culture in light of it. It seems to have a much greater potential
impact than other sins, and that's why it gets the dominant attention
it's receiving.
CP:
What's your response to critics who say Christians that harp on
homosexuality are being hypocritical by appearing cold on other
issues, like divorce and adultery?
Evans: I
would say to a degree that they are correct. The Bible is clear that
sex outside of marriage is sin no matter what the context is, other
than the male-female marital relationship. So to skip that and just
harp on this one sin, they're absolutely correct. But, they're
incorrect when they make the repercussions equal. Because the
repercussions, or consequences of homosexual sin that leads to
homosexual marriage and thus the redefinition of the family, that
consequence is greater. While all are sin that's outside of marriage,
all don't necessarily carry the same consequence, and making that
distinction I think helps to deal with the issue a little more
pragmatically.
CP:
When you speak of "consequences," are you speaking in terms
of everyday life and how we are affected in society and culture, or
in terms of how God judges those sins?
Evans: It
can be how God judges the sin. For example, there are illnesses and
diseases that are more poignantly connected to homosexuality than
typically heterosexual relationships, although there can be
consequences there, too. We have to leave that with God, because God
determines the consequences, we don't. At the same time, we have to
recognize that there are consequences and from our pulpits, proclaim
that and proclaim that consistently, not just with this sin but with
any sin that violates God's standard, with the goal of bringing that
person out of the sin and into a proper standing with God.
CP:
How do you speak to Christians who are dealing with unwanted same-sex
attractions?
Evans: I
would speak to them the same way I would speak to a heterosexual
person that has illegitimate feelings toward females or males —
It's a sin, no matter how you feel about it or what your orientation
is. I've talked to men who feel like they're overly sexual, and
therefore are attracted to any female who walks down the street. I
will not excuse his activity with every female just because he feels
driven in that direction. We've got to bring that passion under the
lordship of Jesus Christ, like we have to bring any passion
under the lordship of Jesus Christ, and that includes same-sex
attraction.
CP:
It is not uncommon for critics to question the Christian confession
of believers who affirm LGBT relationships. Is it OK to question
their faith, or is it possible to be a Christian who maybe believes
wrongly on certain issues?
Evans: Christians
historically have believed wrong on issues. Take slavery, they
believed wrong on that issue for generations and it had just
repercussions that were staggeringly negative for our culture and my
community. So it is possible to be Christian and to
believe wrongly and practice wrongly.
Now that
gets to what is the Gospel, and of course the Gospel is faith in
Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sin. But at the same time, everybody
who's a Christian does not necessarily inherit all the benefits of
being a Christian, nor are they always consistent with their
Christian beliefs. If people are taught wrong, raised wrong or
haven't taken the Bible seriously enough, then they can go into
academic error, emotional error, psychological error. I mean they can
show up in a lot of different ways.
CP:
Do you think pressure will increase for Christians in America in
terms of freedom to speak out on some of these issues?
Evans: The
pressure is already increasing, because it's such a dominant issue in
the culture. It's become not only a moral issue, but a legal issue,
an ecclesiastical issue and a political issue. It's all over, so we
feel the pressure. A lot of money is being spent to support this
issue, so that expands the pressure. But Christians throughout
history have had pressure. Our goal is not to yield to the pressure.
Our goal is to take our stand with Scripture and let the chips fall
where they may, but that stand needs to still be taken in love.
CP:
There's the longstanding reputation that the Black Church has in
America of being silent on the issue of homosexuality, of perhaps
having a policy of "don't ask, don't tell." What are your
thoughts on that?
Evans: I
do think we've been far too silent on the issue. When you have the
unraveling of a culture like we're experiencing — 70 percent of
your children being born out of wedlock, the absenteeism of fathers
and husbands. When you're dealing with this ... we must speak to the
moral issues and we must speak to the family issues that affect us so
personally and so deeply.
We need
more pulpits, many more pulpits holding to God's standard about
sexuality and the family and not reducing that standard for political
or social or convenience reasons. We've got to take that stand. If
not, we will be contributing to the disintegration of the community
and culture that we have been sworn to protect spiritually.
My
comments: Dr. Evans is right in saying that homosexuality has a
profoundly negative effect on society in many respects. God Almighty
has given his view of the sin of homosexuality as He has on all sin.
Those who belong to Christ will stand for God and His Word,
understanding that Christ Jesus is the Word of God [John 1:1]. Christ
Jesus came to set us free from sin by the power of His Spirit living
in and through us. We pray this freedom for every American.
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